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We who are diplomats, we are trained to deal with conflicts between states and issues between states.
我々外äē¤åŽ˜ã¯å›ŊåŽļé–“ãŽį´›äē‰ã‚„å•éĄŒãĢ寞å‡Ļã™ã‚‹ã‚ˆã†č¨“įˇ´ã•ã‚ŒãĻいぞす
There is trade, there is disarmament, there is cross-border relations.
č˛ŋ易やčģį¸ŽãŽå›Ŋåĸƒã‚’čļŠãˆãŸå•éĄŒãĒおãĢ寞å‡ĻしãĒければãĒりぞせん
But the picture is changing, and we are seeing that there are new key players coming onto the scene.
しかしįŠļæŗã¯å¤‰ã‚ã‚Šã¤ã¤ã‚ã‚Ščŋ‘嚴新しい中åŋƒäēēį‰Šé”ãŒį™ģ場しãĻきぞした
We loosely call them "" groups. "" They may represent social, religious, political, economic, military realities.
我々はåŊŧらをおおぞかãĢã€Œé›†å›Ŗã€ã¨å‘ŧんでいぞすåŊŧã‚‰ã¯ãã‚Œãžã‚Œį¤žäŧš īŊ¤ 厗教æ”ŋæ˛ģ īŊ¤ įĩŒæ¸ˆ īŊ¤ čģäē‹ãĒãŠãŽåˆŠåŽŗé–ĸäŋ‚ã‚’äģŖčĄ¨ã—ãĻいãĻ
And we struggle with how to deal with them.
我々はåŊŧらぎ寞å‡ĻãĢč‹Ļ慎しãĻいぞす
The rules of engagement: how to talk, when to talk, and how to deal with them.
いつおぎようãĢå¯žčŠąã‚’čĄŒã„ãŠãŽã‚ˆã†ãĢ取åŧ•をするかです
You see the green is a traditional interstate conflict, the ones we used to read about.
åž“æĨから我々ãĢéĻ´æŸ“ãŋæˇąã„å›ŊåŽļé–“ãŽį´›äē‰ã‚’čĄ¨ã—ãĻいぞす
The red is modern conflict, conflicts within states.
čĩ¤č‰˛ãŽéƒ¨åˆ†ã¯čŋ‘äģŖãŽį´›äē‰ã§
These are quite different, and they are outside the grasp of modern diplomacy.
į¯„į–‡ã‚’čļ…えãĻいるもぎです
And the core of these key actors are groups who represent different interests inside countries.
そしãĻã“ã‚Œã‚‰ãŽį´›äē‰ãŽä¸­åŋƒįš„åŊšå‰˛ã‚’果たしãĻいるぎがこれらぎå›Ŋ々ぎ中ãĢある様々ãĒåˆŠåŽŗã‚’äģŖčĄ¨ã™ã‚‹é›†å›ŖãĒぎです
And the way they deal with their conflicts rapidly spreads to other countries.
åŊŧã‚‰ãŽčĄŒå‹•ã„ã‹ã‚“ã§ã¯į´›äē‰ãŒäģ–å›ŊãĢもæ€Ĩ速ãĢåēƒãžã‚Šãžã™
Another acknowledgment we've seen during these years, recent years, is that very few of these domestic interstate, intrastate conflicts can be solved militarily.
ぞたčŋ‘å𴿈‘々が遭遇しãĻいるもう一つぎčĒč­˜ã¯å†…æˆĻãŠã‚ˆãŗå›ŊåŽļé–“ãŽį´›äē‰ãŽã†ãĄ
They may have to be dealt with with military means, but they cannot be solved by military means.
čģäē‹įš„æ‰‹æŽĩãĢé ŧるåŋ…čĻã¯ã‚ã‚‹ã‹ã‚‚ã—ã‚Œãžã›ã‚“ãŒ
They need political solutions.
æ”ŋæ˛ģįš„ãĒč§Ŗæąēがåŋ…čĻã¨ãĒりぞす
And we, therefore, have a problem, because they escape traditional diplomacy.
ã“ã‚Œã‚‰ãŽé›†å›ŖãŒåž“æĨぎ外äē¤ãŽæž å¤–ãĢもれãĻいるということです
And we have among states a reluctance in dealing with them.
こぎようãĒå•éĄŒãĢ寞å‡ĻすることãĢæļˆæĨĩįš„ã§ã™
After 9 / 11, either you were with us or against us.
9 ãƒģ 11テロがčĩˇããŸåžŒã¯ä¸–į•Œã¯æ•ĩã¨å‘ŗæ–šãĢäēŒåˆ†ã•れぞした
It was black or white.
į™Ŋかéģ’かãĢæąēめäģ˜ã‘られ
And groups are very often immediately label terrorists.
ã“ã†ã—ãŸé›†å›Ŗã¯ã—ã°ã—ã°åŗåē§ãĢテロãƒĒ゚トというãƒŦッテãƒĢがč˛ŧられぞした
The West, as I would see it, comes out of that decade weakened, because we didn't understand the group.
æŦ§įąŗč̏å›Ŋはこぎ10嚴でåŧąäŊ“åŒ–ã—ãŸã¨ã“ã†ã—ãŸé›†å›Ŗã‚’į†č§Ŗã§ããĒã‹ãŖãŸã‹ã‚‰ã§ã™
So we've spent more time on focusing on why we should not talk to others than finding out how we talk to others.
æˆ‘ã€…ã¯å¯žčŠąãŽæ–šæŗ•ã‚’æŽĸるかわりãĢæ­ŗæœˆã‚’č˛ģやしãĻしぞいぞした
You cannot talk to everybody all the time.
いつでもčĒ°ã¨ã§ã‚‚å¯žčŠąã§ãã‚‹ã‚ã‘ã¯ãĒく
And sometimes military intervention is necessary.
čģäē‹äģ‹å…Ĩがåŋ…čρãĒ場合もありぞす
I happen to believe that Libya was necessary and that military intervention in Afghanistan was also necessary.
ã‚ĸフã‚Ŧニ゚ã‚ŋãƒŗãĢついãĻも同様です
And my country relies on its security through military alliance, that's clear.
我がå›Ŋぎ厉全äŋéšœãŒčģäē‹åŒį›ŸãĢé ŧãŖãĻいることは明į™Ŋです
But still we have a large deficit in dealing with and understanding modern conflict.
しかしそれでも我々はčŋ‘äģŖãŽį´›äē‰ãĢé–ĸしãĻぎ寞å‡Ļã¨į†č§ŖãĢ大きãĒæŦ é™ĨをかかえãĻいぞす
10 years after that military intervention, that country is far from secure.
čģäē‹äģ‹å…Ĩから10嚴がįĩŒãĄãžã—たがかぎå›Ŋã¯åŽ‰åŽšã¨ã¯į¨‹é ã„įŠļ態です
The situation, to be honest, is very serious.
įŽ‡į›´ãĢč¨€ãŖãĻä狿…‹ã¯æĨĩめãĻæˇąåˆģです
Now again, the military is necessary, but the military is no problem-solver.
かぎå›ŊでčģéšŠãŽé§į•™ã¯åŋ…čĻã§ã™ãŒčģéšŠã ã‘ã§ã¯å•éĄŒč§Ŗæąēしぞせん
When I first came to Afghanistan in 2005 as a foreign minister, I met the commander of ISAF, the international troops.
2005åš´ãĢå¤–į›¸ã¨ã—ãĻ初めãĻã‚ĸフã‚Ŧニ゚ã‚ŋãƒŗã‚’č¨Ē問した時å›Ŋ際æ˛ģ厉支援部隊 īŧˆ ISAF īŧ‰ ぎ司äģ¤åŽ˜ã¨éĸčĢ‡ã‚’ã—ãžã—ãŸ
And he told me that, "" This can be won militarily, minister.
åŊ“時ぎ司äģ¤åŽ˜ã¯č¨€ã„ãžã—ãŸã€Œå¤–į›¸æˆ‘ã€…ãŒčž›æŠąåŧˇãã‚„り遂げれば
We just have to persevere. "" Now four COM ISAF's later, we hear a different message: "" This cannot be won militarily.
それからīŧ”äģŖį›ŽãŽå¸äģ¤åŽ˜ã‹ã‚‰ã¯é•ã†č¨€č‘‰ãŒčžã‹ã‚Œãžã—ãŸã€Œčģäē‹įš„ãĢは勝刊することはできぞせん
We need military presence, but we need to move to politics.
æ”ŋæ˛ģįš„č§Ŗæąēがåŋ…čĻã§ã™
We can only solve this through a political solution.
æ”ŋæ˛ģįš„č§Ŗæąēぎãŋがæąēį€ã‚’ã¤ã‘ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãŒã§ãã‚‹ãŽã§ã™
And it is not us who will solve it; Afghans have to solve it. "" But then they need a different political process than the one they were given in 2001, 2002.
そしãĻã“ãŽå•éĄŒã‚’č§Ŗæąēするぎは我々ではãĒくã‚ĸフã‚Ŧニ゚ã‚ŋãƒŗäēēです」しかしそれãĢはåŊŧらč‡ĒčēĢぎæ”ŋæ˛ģåˆļåēĻがåŋ…čĻã§
They need an inclusive process where the real fabric of this very complicated society can deal with their issues.
åŊŧらč‡ĒčēĢãŽå•éĄŒãĢ寞å‡Ļできる非常ãĢ複雑ãĒį¤žäŧšãŽä¸­æžĸをãĒすようãĒäēēãŸãĄãĢよる包æ‹Ŧįš„ãƒ—ãƒ­ã‚ģ゚がåŋ…čĻã¨ã•ã‚ŒãĻいるぎです
Everybody seems to agree with that.
äģŠã¯čĒ°ã‚‚ãŒčŗ›åŒã—ãĻいるようですが
It was very controversial to say three, four, five years ago.
īŧ“ ~ īŧ•嚴前ãĢは意čĻ‹ãŒåˆ†ã‹ã‚ŒãĻいぞした
Now everybody agrees.
äģŠã¯čĒ°ã‚‚ãŒåŒæ„ã—ãĻいることです
But now, as we prepare to talk, we understand how little we know.
ã—ã‹ã—ã„ã–å¯žčŠąã‚’ã—ã‚ˆã†ã¨ã™ã‚‹ã¨æˆ‘ã€…ãŽįŸĨč­˜ãŽå°‘ãĒさãĢ気ãĨきぞす
The International Committee of the Red Cross, the ICRC, is talking to everyone, and it is doing so because it is neutral.
čĩ¤åå­—å›Ŋéš›å§”å“Ąäŧš ICRCは中įĢ‹ãŽįĢ‹å ´ã‚’å–ãŖãĻいるためčĒ°ã¨ã§ã‚‚å¯žčŠąã‚’ã—ãĻいぞす
And that's one reason why that organization probably is the best informed key player to understand modern conflict — because they talk.
こぎことが ICRCがčŋ‘åš´ãŽį´›äē‰ã‚’į†č§Ŗã™ã‚‹ãŸã‚ãŽæƒ…å ąãĢ最も通じた重čρãĒ囪äŊ“であることぎåŊŧã‚‰ã¯å¯žčŠąã‚’ã™ã‚‹ã‹ã‚‰ã§ã™
My point is that you don't have to be neutral to talk.
ã—ã‹ã—å¯žčŠąã‚’ã™ã‚‹éš›ãĢ中įĢ‹ã§ã‚ã‚‹åŋ…čĻã¯ã‚ã‚Šãžã›ã‚“
And you don't have to agree when you sit down with the other side.
į›¸æ‰‹ã¨åŒã˜ãƒ†ãƒŧブãƒĢãĢついたとき同意するåŋ…čĻã¯ãĒいぎです
And you can always walk.
席をįĢ‹ã¤ã“ã¨ã¯ã„ã¤ã§ã‚‚å¯čƒŊです
But if you don't talk, you can't engage the other side.
ã—ã‹ã—å¯žčŠąč‡ĒäŊ“ã‚’čĄŒã‚ãĒã‘ã‚Œã°į›¸æ‰‹å´ã¨é–ĸわることができぞせん
And the other side which you're going to engage is the one with whom you profoundly disagree.
ãžãŸå¯žčŠąã‚’čĄŒãŠã†ã¨ã—ãĻã„ã‚‹į›¸æ‰‹ã¯ã‚ãĒたと厌全ãĢ意čĻ‹ãŒéŖŸã„é•ãŖãĻいるäēēãŸãĄã§ã™
Prime Minister Rabin said when he engaged the Oslo process, "" You don't make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies. "" It's hard, but it is necessary.
ãƒŠãƒ“ãƒŗå…ƒéĻ–į›¸ã¯ã‚Ē゚ロīŊĨプロã‚ģ゚ãĢé–ĸã‚ãŖãŸéš›ã€Œå’Œåšŗã¯å‹ã¨įĩãļぎではãĒã„å’Œåšŗã¨ã¯æ•ĩとįĩãļã‚‚ãŽã ã€ã¨č¨€ã„ãžã—ãŸå›°é›Ŗã§ã™ãŒåŋ…čρãĒことãĒぎです
Let me go one step further.
ã‚‚ã†ä¸€æ­Šč¸ãŋčžŧã‚“ã§č€ƒãˆãĻãŋぞしょう
This is Tahrir Square.
これはã‚ŋハãƒĒãƒŧãƒĢåēƒå ´ã§ã™
There's a revolution going on.
ここで靊å‘ŊãŒé€˛čĄŒã—ãĻいぞす
The Arab Spring is heading into fall and is moving into winter.
ã‚ĸナブぎæ˜Ĩã¯į§‹ã¨ãĒりå†ŦãĢãĒりぞした
It will last for a long, long time.
こぎ運動はäģŠåžŒé•ˇæœŸåŒ–するでしょう
And who knows what it will be called in the end.
こぎ靊å‘Ŋが最įĩ‚įš„ãĢäŊ•とå‘ŧばれようが
That's not the point.
それは重čρãĒことではありぞせん
The point is that we are probably seeing, for the first time in the history of the Arab world, a revolution bottom-up — people's revolution.
重čρãĒことはこれが我々がおそらく初めãĻį›ŽãĢするã‚ĸãƒŠãƒ–ä¸–į•ŒãŽæ­´å˛ä¸ŠåˆãŽãƒœãƒˆãƒ ã‚ĸップぎ靊å‘Ŋã§ã‚ã‚Šæ°‘čĄ†ä¸ģäŊ“ぎ靊å‘Ŋだということです
Social groups are taking to the streets.
į¤žäŧšé›†å›Ŗã¯čĄ—頭でデãƒĸã‚’įš°ã‚Šåēƒã’ぞした
And we find out in the West that we know very little about what's happening.
そしãĻæŦ§įąŗč̏å›ŊはäŊ•がčĩˇããĻいるかをãģã¨ã‚“ãŠæŠŠæĄã§ããĻいãĒいことãĢ気ãĨいたぎです
Because we never talk to the people in these countries.
こうしたå›Ŋぎäēē々と一åēĻã‚‚å¯žčŠąã‚’ã—ãĻこãĒã‹ãŖãŸã‹ã‚‰ã§ã™
Most governments followed the dictate of the authoritarian leaders to stay away from these different groups, because they were terrorists.
ãģとんおぎæ”ŋåēœã¯åŊŧらがテロãƒĒ゚トであるという
So now that they are emerging in the street and we salute the democratic revolution, we find out how little we know.
ã—ã‹ã—ã‚¨ã‚¸ãƒ—ãƒˆå¸‚æ°‘ãŒčĄ—ãĢつめかけ民ä¸ģä¸ģįžŠéŠå‘ŊãĢå–é‡‡ã‚’é€ãŖãŸæˆ‘ã€…ã¯ãģとんおäŊ•ã‚‚įŸĨらãĒいことãĢ気ãĨいたぎです
Right now, the discussion goes, "" Should we talk to the Muslim Brotherhood?
įžåœ¨ã‚‚č­°čĢ–ã¯įļšã„ãĻいぞす「我々はム゚ãƒĒãƒ åŒčƒžå›Ŗã¨å¯žčŠąã™ãšãã‹ īŧŸ
Should we talk to Hamas?
ãƒãƒžã‚šã¨å¯žčŠąã™ãšãã‹ īŧŸ
If we talk to them, we may legitimize them. "" I think that is wrong.
å¯žčŠąã‚’čĄŒãŖãŸã‚‰åŊŧらをčĒã‚ã‚‹ã“ã¨ãĢãĒるぎではãĒã„ã‹ã€į§ã¯ã“ã‚Œã¯čĒ¤ã‚Šã ã¨æ€ã„ãžã™
If you talk in the right way, you make it very clear that talking is not agreeing.
æ­Ŗã—ã„æ–šæŗ•ã§å¯žčŠąã‚’čĄŒãˆã°å¯žčŠąã¨åˆæ„ã¯é•ã†ã“ã¨ã‚’æ˜ŽįĸēãĢできぞす
And how can we tell the Muslim Brotherhood, as we should, that they must respect minority rights, if we don't accept majority rights?
そしãĻãĒãĢより我々が多数洞ぎ樊刊を尊重しãĒいとしたらム゚ãƒĒãƒ åŒčƒžå›ŖãĢ少数洞ぎ樊刊を尊重すずきであるãĒおとおうしãĻč¨€ã†ã“ã¨ãŒã§ãã‚‹ã§ã—ã‚‡ã†ã‹ īŧŸ
Because they may turn out to be a majority.
ãĒぜãĒらåŊŧらはäģŠã‚„多数洞かもしれãĒいぎです
How can we escape [having] a double-standard, if we at the same time preach democracy and at the same time don't want to deal with the groups that are representative?
我々がもし民ä¸ģä¸ģįžŠã‚’čĒŦく一斚でåŊŧらをäģŖčĄ¨ã™ã‚‹é›†å›Ŗã¨ä礿¸‰ã—ãĒいぎであればダブãƒĢ゚ã‚ŋãƒŗãƒ€ãƒŧãƒ‰ã¨č¨€ã‚ã‚ŒãĻもåŊ“į„ļです
How will we ever be interlocutors?
ã“ã‚Œã§æˆ‘ã€…ã‚’æŠ˜čĄč€…ã¨ã„ãˆã‚‹ã§ã—ã‚‡ã†ã‹ īŧŸ
Now my diplomats are instructed to talk to all these groups.
įžåœ¨æˆ‘ãŒå›Ŋぎ外äē¤åŽ˜ã¯ã“ã†ã—ãŸã™ãšãĻãŽé›†å›Ŗã¨å¯žčŠąã™ã‚‹ã‚ˆã†æŒ‡į¤ēされãĻいぞす
But talking can be done in different ways.
å¯žčŠąãĢは様々ãĒやり斚がありぞす
We make a distinction between talking from a diplomatic level and talking at the political level.
我々は外äē¤ãƒŦベãƒĢã§ãŽå¯žčŠąã¨æ”ŋæ˛ģãƒŦベãƒĢã§ãŽå¯žčŠąã‚’åŒēåˆĨしãĻいぞす
Now talking can be accompanied with aid or not with aid.
援劊をäŧ´ã†ã‚‚ぎとäŧ´ã‚ãĒã„å¯žčŠąãŒã‚ã‚Š
Talking can be accompanied with inclusion or not inclusion.
包æ‹Ŧįš„ãĒもぎと包æ‹Ŧįš„ã§ãĒã„å¯žčŠąãŒã‚ã‚Šãžã™
There's a big array of the ways of dealing with this.
こうしたことãĢ寞å‡Ļã™ã‚‹ãŸã‚ãŽæ–šæŗ•ã¯åŽŸãĢたくさんあるぎです
So if we refuse to talk to these new groups that are going to be dominating the news in years to come, we will further radicalization, I believe.
ã‚‚ã—æˆ‘ã€…ãŒã“ã†ã—ãŸæ–°ã—ã„é›†å›Ŗ â€”å¯žčŠąã‚’æ‹’ã‚“ã ã¨ã—ãŸã‚‰ãŠã†ãĒるでしょうæ€Ĩé€˛åŒ–ã‚’ã•ã‚‰ãĢäŋƒã™ã¨į§ã¯č€ƒãˆãĻいぞす
We will make the road from violent activities into politics harder to travel.
æš´åŠ›įš„ãĒæ´ģ動をæ”ŋæ˛ģãĢå°ŽããŸã‚ãŽé“ã‚’ã‚ˆã‚Šå›°é›ŖãĒもぎãĢしãĻしぞいぞす
And if we cannot demonstrate to these groups that if you move towards democracy, if you move towards taking part in civilized and normal standards among states, there are some rewards on the other side.
ã‚‚ã—æˆ‘ã€…ãŒã“ã†ã—ãŸé›†å›ŖãĢ寞しãĻ民ä¸ģä¸ģįžŠãĢį§ģčĄŒã—ãĻå›ŊåŽļé–“ãŽæ­Ŗå¸¸ã§æ–‡æ˜ŽåŒ–ã•ã‚ŒãŸé–ĸäŋ‚ぎ一įĢ¯ã‚’æ‹…ã†ã‚ˆã†ãĢãĒã‚Œã°åˆŠį›ŠãŒã‚ã‚‹ãŽã ã¨į¤ēすことができãĒければおうãĒるでしょう īŧŸ
The paradox here is that the last decade probably was a lost decade for making progress on this.
ここãĢおけるパナドック゚は過åŽģ10嚴はおそらく外ä礿”ŋį­–ãĢãŠã‘ã‚‹å¤ąã‚ã‚ŒãŸ10åš´ã ãŖãŸã¨ã„ã†ã“ã¨ã§ã™
And the paradox is that the decade before the last decade was so promising — and for one reason primarily.
ãĒぜパナドック゚かというとそぎ前ぎ10嚴は原りが多くそれも一つぎå‡ēæĨäē‹ãŒå¯„与しãĻいぞす
And the reason is what happened in South Africa: Nelson Mandela.
それは南ã‚ĸフãƒĒã‚ĢぎネãƒĢã‚ŊãƒŗīŊĨãƒžãƒŗãƒ‡ãƒŠæ°ãŒ
When Mandela came out of prison after 27 years of captivity, if he had told his people, "" It's time to take up the arms, it's time to fight, "" he would have been followed.
åŊŧãŒæ°‘čĄ†ãĢ寞しãĻ「äģŠã“そæ­Ļ器を取れæˆĻいぎ時がきた」とčĒŦいãĻã‚‚æ°‘čĄ†ã¯åŊŧを支持したでしょう
And I think the international community would have said, "" Fair enough.
そしãĻå›Ŋéš›į¤žäŧšã‚‚ぞたåŊŧらãĢはæˆĻう樊刊があると
It's their right to fight. "" Now as you know, Mandela didn't do that.
č€ƒãˆãŸã§ã—ã‚‡ã†ã—ã‹ã—ã”å­˜įŸĨぎ通りåŊŧはそうしぞせんでした
In his memoirs, "" Long Road to Freedom, "" he wrote that he survived during those years of captivity because he always decided to look upon his oppressor as also being a human being, also being a human being.
åŊŧぎč‡Ēäŧã€Žč‡Ēį”ąã¸ãŽé•ˇã„é“ã€ãĢよるとåŊŧãŒããŽé•ˇã„į„ä¸­į”Ÿæ´ģã‚’č€ãˆæŠœãã“ã¨ãŒã§ããŸãŽã¯å¸¸ãĢã“ã†č€ƒãˆã‚‹ã“ã¨ã‚’č‡Ē分ãĢčĒ˛ã—ãĻã„ãŸã‹ã‚‰ã§ã—ãŸã€ŒæŠ‘åœ§č€…ã‚‚ãžãŸåŒã˜äēēé–“ã§ã‚ã‚‹ã€ã¨ã€ŒæŠ‘åœ§č€…ã‚‚ãžãŸåŒã˜äēē間である」と
So he engaged a political process of dialogue, not as a strategy of the weak, but as a strategy of the strong.
åŊŧはæ”ŋæ˛ģįš„ãĒプロã‚ģ゚としãĻãŽå¯žčŠąã‚’åŧąč€…ぎæˆĻį•ĨとしãĻではãĒくåŧˇč€…ぎæˆĻį•ĨとしãĻį”¨ã„ãžã—ãŸ
And he engaged talking profoundly by settling some of the most tricky issues through a truth and reconciliation process where people came and talked.
åŊŧはäēēã€…ãŒé›†ãžãŖãĻå¯žčŠąã‚’ã™ã‚‹įœŸåŽŸã¨å’Œč§ŖãŽãƒ—ãƒ­ã‚ģ゚を通しãĻいくつかぎ非常ãĢé›Ŗã—ã„å•éĄŒã‚’č§Ŗæąēã—įŠæĨĩįš„ãĢå¯žčŠąã‚’čĄŒã„ãžã—ãŸ
Now South African friends will know that was very painful.
南ã‚ĸフãƒĒã‚Ģぎäēē々はそれが非常ãĢčž›ã„éŽį¨‹ã§ã‚ãŖãŸã“ã¨ã‚’įŸĨるでしょう
So what can we learn from all of this?
ここから我々がå­Ļãļことは
Dialogue is not easy — not between individuals, not between groups, not between governments — but it is very necessary.
å¯žčŠąã‚’čĄŒã†ã“ã¨ã¯åŽšæ˜“ã§ã¯ãĒい個äēē īŊ¤ 集囪 īŊ¤ æ”ŋåēœé–“ぎいずれãĢおいãĻも厚易ではãĒã„ã—ã‹ã—å¯žčŠąã¯įĩļ寞ãĢåŋ…čĻã ã¨ã„ã†ã“ã¨ã§ã™
We have to connect with these profound changes.
外äē¤åŽ˜ã§ã‚ã‚‹æˆ‘ã€…ã¯ã“ã†ã—ãŸæ„įžŠæˇąã„å¤‰åŒ–ãĢé–ĸ与すずきãĒぎです
When I enter into dialogue, I really hope that the other side would pick up my points of view, that I would impress upon them my opinions and my values.
į›¸æ‰‹å´ãŒį§ãŽä¸ģåŧĩã‚’į†č§Ŗã—ãĻくれることをæœŦåŋƒã‹ã‚‰æœ›ã‚“ã§ã„ãžã™ããŽéš›į§ã¯č‡Ē分ぎ意čĻ‹ã¨äžĄå€¤čĻŗã‚’å°čąĄäģ˜ã‘るようãĢåŋƒãŒã‘ãĻいぞす
I cannot do that unless I send the signals that I will be open to listen to the other side's signals.
これをするためãĢはåŋƒã‚’é–‹ãį›¸æ‰‹ãŽæ„å›ŗã‚’čžã„ãĻいる
We need a lot more training on how to do that and a lot more practice on how that can take problem-solving forward.
こうしたことを原čˇĩするãĢã¯ãŸãã•ã‚“ãŽč¨“įˇ´ãŒåŋ…čĻã§å¯žčŠąãĢã‚ˆãŖãĻå•éĄŒč§Ŗæąēã‚’å‰é€˛ã•ã›ã‚‹įˇ´įŋ’がåŋ…čĻã§ã™
We know from our personal experiences that it's easy sometimes just to walk, and sometimes you may need to fight.
č‡Ē分ぎ個äēēįš„ãĒäŊ“験から時ãĢはただ席をįĢ‹ã¤ãģうが厚易ãĒå ´åˆãŒã‚ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã¯ã‚ã‹ãŖãĻいぞすぞた時ãĢはäē‰ã†åŋ…čĻã‚‚ã‚ã‚‹ã§ã—ã‚‡ã†
And I wouldn't say that is the wrong thing in all circumstances.
すずãĻぎįŠļæŗãĢおいãĻこれがæ‚Ēã„ã¨ã¯č¨€ãˆãžã›ã‚“
Sometimes you have to.
時ãĢはäģ–ãĢæ–šæŗ•ãŒãĒいこともあるでしょう
But that strategy seldom takes you very far.
しかしこうしたæˆĻį•Ĩã§ã¯é€˛åą•ã‚’čĻ‹ã‚‹ã“ã¨ã¯é›Ŗã—ã„ãŽã§ã™
And I believe we need to strengthen this approach in modern diplomacy, not only between states, but also within states.
åŧˇåŒ–させるåŋ…čĻãŒã‚ã‚‹ã¨č€ƒãˆãĻいぞすå›ŊåŽļé–“ãŽå¯žčŠąã ã‘ã§ãĒくå›Ŋå†…ãŽå¯žčŠąãĢおいãĻもです
We are seeing some new signs.
新しい兆しもčĻ‹ãˆãĻきãĻいぞす
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